Sorry, Tommee See, to give ya´ a bum steer in that last post. It was just last week I was doing some intense research on the V-Stroms and I´d come across a site (which I thought was this one) where all this "chatter" went down around the DL 650 vs DL 1000 and some other reports. I went looking for the site on-line just now and I can´t seem to come across it...sore eyes...been reading about the Triumph RIII 2005 model all night...there´s another chat site out there...keep looking...it will be worth the investigation.