If I can find out how to put pictures on here I´ll show you what my bike and pipes look like. If mine arn´t louddddd enough I can´ imagine what would be. As far as I know mine are the stock pipes that have the baffels knocked out. When I bought it the top left pipe sounded like a hollow knock. It still had one baffel ring in it. I knocked it out and it made a big difference. Riding around locally the sound is fine but for the 325 mile trip I used ear plugs.